tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5816147226417130386.post6701849723908351253..comments2023-07-17T03:57:39.014-07:00Comments on The Liberal Agnostic Who Could: 20 Signs We Were Never Gonna Make ItLisahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10268689890561878413noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5816147226417130386.post-59301520555765414412010-11-23T14:14:30.891-08:002010-11-23T14:14:30.891-08:00I love this post especially #1... me too. Always ...I love this post especially #1... me too. Always on time. Here's a couple more of mine:<br /><br />1. At BYU, in drama, I was never able to be cast in a play as someone's relative because I didn't look like anyone else. I only got the weird sidekick roles.<br /><br />2. Everyone was always shocked to learn I was LDS...even at BYU. No joke. I was pretty True Blue Mormon (I thought) but people always assumed I was one of the few NoMos at the Y.<br /><br />2. Hated Home Teaching. Hated doing it and hated being home taught. A pointless, time-consuming exercise in pretend friendship.<br /><br />3. Didn't like living in places that were too Mormon...UT, AZ, ID 'cause weird things always went down when you got a majority, or even a significant minority of Mormons together.<br /><br />4. When I was able to fake a spiritual witness and then have a leader praise me for it at the MTC... I knew it was all fake right then.<br /><br />5. When on my mission we never wanted to take investigators to F&T meeting because it just always got too weird and uncomfortable.<br /><br />6. When my then-wife literally freaked out and went ballistic at the TV when we watched that PBS "Mormons" special about 5 years ago.<br /><br />7. I thought the whole "sealed together" thing would be awesome to know after someone died. Then my Mom died and it just seemed trite and stupid...that only Mormons have forever families because of a handshake? Please...<br /><br />8. That crying had almost no effect on me but actually made me even more suspicious of a person's intent.<br /><br />9. Looking at a bunch of men at Stake Priesthood Meeting as I was playing the prelude and thinking, "Why am I spending all my free time with these people? There's not one person there admire or want to be friends with."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5816147226417130386.post-31504334055004035482010-11-21T09:03:38.157-08:002010-11-21T09:03:38.157-08:00Awesome post. I share several items listed on that...Awesome post. I share several items listed on that list. I always hated sharing the Joseph Smith story even when I believed it I knew how far fetched it sounded. <br /><br />On the mission the recital of the First Vision was always interrupted. One of my comps used to say it was because Satan was telling the phone to ring, the baby to cry or someone to knock at the door at that moment to interupt this all important message... In my mind I thought, "God is answering my prayers... I don't want to recite the First Vision... I hate sounding like a crazy person..."Kileyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14598910475787952773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5816147226417130386.post-5790021571790058512010-11-21T05:33:20.909-08:002010-11-21T05:33:20.909-08:006) One word: Questions
I was foolish about this. I...<i>6) One word: Questions</i><br />I was foolish about this. I always believed that when they said "your testimony should be your own, and you should ask the questions you need to reaffirm it" that they mean it. Oh the answers I used to get to the questions I would ask...Maybe if Joseph Smith had been there to answer them for me instead, I'd still be active ;-)<br /><br />My family in general doesn't fall into about 3/4 of what you have listed above, they're all still active. But I suspect it's why my dad used to tell me "I'm not the kind of person they call to be bishop"Loralie Hallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07134452749240292803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5816147226417130386.post-16969470321859940352010-11-20T19:17:04.686-08:002010-11-20T19:17:04.686-08:00When I told my mother I thought that courtships sh...When I told my mother I thought that courtships should be looonngg, marriage should be based on a solid friendship (that develops long before marriage) and an equal partnership. She shook her head and looked at me like I was from another planet and called me a women's libber.<br /><br />When my dad was trying to explain how women are the root of all sin and thereby (he thought) justify the superior male patriarchal role and I, thinking he was joking, teased, "You're a chauvinist." Without an eye blink or a smile he said, "Yes. Yes I am." So is God, you know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5816147226417130386.post-13411643873715137212010-11-20T16:08:45.779-08:002010-11-20T16:08:45.779-08:00I should also add that this list makes me feel bet...I should also add that this list makes me feel better about how Molly I could be and how incredibly indoctrinated I was. I had some hope.<br /><br />Foxy: Yeah, actually I was into the testimony thing too--but I would never actually hand it out to anyone in person. I left that up to someone else. As far as the sex thing goes, I was worried about what other people would think, at least as far as his family went and our friends and fellow church members. Oh the gossip for something that was nobody else's effing business.<br /><br />Makes me crazy too.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10268689890561878413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5816147226417130386.post-66147632398646504282010-11-20T15:23:44.892-08:002010-11-20T15:23:44.892-08:00Your list sounds just like mine...minus the sex th...Your list sounds just like mine...minus the sex thing. If Jake and I had had sex before we were married, I was worried about what god and my family and friends would think. Ugh. The whole thing makes me crazy. And pass along cards were lame...but I was all over writing your testimony in a cheap BoM to pass out. Gag.Erinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07752730192463071047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5816147226417130386.post-63177984835188580252010-11-20T14:50:37.665-08:002010-11-20T14:50:37.665-08:00MoHo: Yeah, I get that now and recognize that my b...MoHo: Yeah, I get that now and recognize that my belief in Biblical characters is a result of a lifetime of...learning, for lack of a better word. Just what I was taught to "know." I realize that this belief is the same for BIC Mormons--they would figure it was true because that's what they've always been taught to know. <br /><br />The Bible isn't exactly something I see as historical anymore, so.<br /><br />I just figured that as a convert with a "testimony" i ought to at least pretend a belief in it, but I never could bring myself to "see" a real Nephi, Jacob, Mormon, etc. Just a bunch of annoying stories.<br /><br />Diana: Yeah. My mom once said something about not understanding my feminist leanings when I was about fifteen, and it totally took me off guard. Her tone matched other experiences I'd had regarding how feminist = bad, which I struggle with still to this day. And, to boot, my shrinking away from my mom's pejorative use of the word had nothing to do with religion--at least not that i'm aware of.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10268689890561878413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5816147226417130386.post-9517786362109910132010-11-20T14:44:56.303-08:002010-11-20T14:44:56.303-08:00When I was in 12th grade, my history teacher told ...When I was in 12th grade, my history teacher told me to "stop being such a feminist".<br /><br /><br />At the time I was worried, because aren't feminists all lesbians and babykillers and stuff?Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09634766750596400436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5816147226417130386.post-77154193712926156612010-11-20T14:43:52.073-08:002010-11-20T14:43:52.073-08:00Never really believed the Book of Mormon peoples t...<i>Never really believed the Book of Mormon peoples to be real, historical people. Not like I believed the Biblical characters to be real, historical people.</i><br /><br />Actually, there's essentially zero historical evidence for most Biblical characters. There's no evidence the Jews were ever captive in Egypt. No evidence of Moses, Abraham or David. Zip (and, believe me, people have been looking).MoHoHawaiihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15086670779804942122noreply@blogger.com